SIKESTON, Mo. — In the summertime of 2021, Sikeston residents organized the largest Juneteenth get together within the metropolis’s historical past. Sikeston cops got here too, each to supply safety for the occasion and to attempt to construct bridges with the neighborhood. However after a long time of distrust, some residents questioned their motives.
Within the collection finale of the podcast, a assured, outspoken Sikeston teenager shares her emotions in an uncommonly frank dialog with Chief James McMillen, head of Sikeston’s Division of Public Security, which incorporates Sikeston police.
Host Cara Anthony asks what sort of systemic change is feasible to cut back the burden of racism on the well being of Black Individuals. Well being fairness skilled Gail Christopher says it begins with institutional leaders who acknowledge the issue, measure it, and take concrete steps to alter issues.
“It’s a course of, and it’s not sufficient to march and get a victory,” Christopher stated. “We now have to rework the programs of inequity on this nation.”
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Cara Anthony
Midwest correspondent, KFF Well being Information
Cara is an Edward R. Murrow and Nationwide Affiliation of Black Journalists award-winning reporter from East St. Louis, Illinois. Her work has appeared in The New York Instances, Time journal, NPR, and different shops nationwide. Her reporting journey to the Missouri Bootheel in August 2020 launched the “Silence in Sikeston” mission. She is a producer on the documentary and the podcast’s host.
In Dialog With …
Gail Christopher
Public well being chief and well being fairness skilled
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Transcript: Is There a Treatment for Racism?
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[Ambient sounds from Sikeston, Missouri’s 2021 Juneteenth celebration — a DJ making an announcement over funky music, people chatting — begin playing.]
Cara Anthony: It’s 2021. It’s sizzling and humid. We’re at a park within the coronary heart of Sundown — Sikeston, Missouri’s traditionally Black neighborhood.
Emory: Right this moment is Juneteenth, child.
Cara Anthony: The basketball courts are leaping. And old-school funk is blaring from the audio system. Children are taking part in.
Cara Anthony: [Laughter] Are you having fun with the water?
Cara Anthony: Individuals are lining up for barbecue.
I’ve been right here reporting on the toll racism and violence can tackle a neighborhood’s well being. However right now, I’m hoping to seize slightly little bit of Sikeston’s pleasure.
Taneshia Pulley: After I look out to the gang of my individuals, I see energy. I see energy. I simply see all magic.
Cara Anthony: I drift over to a tent the place persons are getting their blood strain, weight, and top checked … well being screenings totally free.
Cara Anthony: I’m a journalist.
Neighborhood Well being Employee: Ooooh! Hello! Hello!
Cara Anthony: The women working the sales space are excited I’m there to report on the occasion.
Cara Anthony: OK, and I’m a well being journalist.
Neighborhood well being employee: Child, that’s what I instructed them. Yeah, she wholesome. [Laughter]
[Dramatic instrumental music plays.]
Cara Anthony: This Juneteenth gathering is occurring slightly over a 12 months after Sikeston cops shot and killed 23-year-old Denzel Taylor.
We made a documentary about Denzel’s demise and the demise of one other younger Black man — additionally killed in Sikeston.
Denzel was shot by police. Practically 80 years earlier, Cleo Wright was lynched by a white mob.
Each have been killed earlier than they acquired their day in court docket.
In these years of reporting, what I’ve discovered is that many Black households fear that their children don’t have an equal probability of rising up wholesome and secure in Sikeston.
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Rosemary Owens: Being Black within the Bootheel can get you killed at any age.
Cara Anthony: That’s Rosemary Owens. She raised her youngsters right here in Southeast Missouri.
Cara Anthony: About 10 Sikeston cops confirmed as much as Juneteenth — for safety and to attach with the neighborhood. Some are in uniform; some are in plain garments.
Rosemary has her doubts about why they got here right now.
Cara Anthony: You see the police chief speaking to individuals. What’s going via your thoughts as you see them milling about?
Rosemary Owens: I hope they’re actual and wanting to shut the hole between the African Individuals and the white individuals.
Anyone can come out and shake arms. However on the finish of the day, did you imply what you stated? As a result of issues are nonetheless happening right here in Sikeston, Missouri.
Cara Anthony: For Rosemary, this brings to thoughts an encounter with the police from years in the past.
[Slow, minor, instrumental music plays softly.]
When her son was perhaps 16 years outdated, she says, she and her sister gave their boys the keys to their new vehicles — instructed them they may hand around in them.
Rosemary had gotten her new automobile for Mom’s Day.
Rosemary Owens: A brand-new purple Dodge Caravan. We, we knew the boys have been simply going from the van to the automobile. , simply displaying out — they have been boys. They weren’t driving.
Cara Anthony: Somebody close by noticed the boys …
Rosemary Owens: … referred to as and instructed the police that two Black males have been robbing vehicles.
When the boys noticed the police come up, there was three police vehicles. So that they have been like, one thing’s happening. So their intention, they have been like, they have been making an attempt to run to us. And my brother stated, cease. Once they appeared again, when the police acquired out of the automobile, they already had their weapons drawn on my son and my nephew. Cara Anthony: That’s what Rosemary thinks about when she sees Sikeston police at Juneteenth.
[Slow, minor, instrumental music ends.]
[“Silence in Sikeston” theme song plays.] Cara Anthony: On this podcast collection, we’ve talked about a few of the methods racism makes Black individuals sick. However Juneteenth has me serious about how we get free — how we STOP racism from making us sick.
The general public well being specialists say it’s going to take systemwide, institutional change.
On this episode, we’re going to look at what that community-level change seems to be like — or at the least what it seems to be wish to make a begin.
From WORLD Channel and KFF Well being Information, distributed by PRX, that is “Silence in Sikeston.”
Episode 4 is our remaining episode: “Is There a Treatment for Racism?”
[“Silence in Sikeston” theme song ends.]
James McMillen: The way you doing?
Juneteenth celebration attendee: Good. Good.
James McMillen: Good to see you, man.
Juneteenth celebration attendee: What’s up? How are you?
Cara Anthony: After I spot Sikeston’s director of public security in his cowboy hat, sipping soda from a can, I head over to speak. James McMillen: Nicely, you recognize, I simply, I, I’m glad to be … on the within of this.
Cara Anthony: James McMillen leads the police division. He says he made it some extent to return to Juneteenth. And he inspired his officers to return, too.
James McMillen: I bear in mind as being a younger officer coming to work right here, not figuring out anyone, driving by a park and seeing a number of Black individuals on the market. And I bear in mind feeling, you recognize, considerably intimidated by that. And I don’t actually know why.
I hadn’t all the time been, um, that lively locally. And, um, I, I’ve been the final a number of years and I’m simply wanting to show officers to do the identical factor.
Cara Anthony: The chief instructed me displaying up was a part of his division’s efforts to restore relations with Sikeston’s Black residents.
James McMillen: What’s necessary about that is, being out right here and really figuring out individuals, I believe it builds that belief that we have to have to forestall and resolve crimes.
Cara Anthony: A couple of minutes into our dialog, I discover a teen and her good friend close by, listening.
Cara Anthony: Yeah, now we have two people who find themselves watching us fairly carefully. Come over right here. Come over right here. Inform us your names.
Lauren: My title is Lauren.
Michaiahes: My title is Michaiahes.
Cara Anthony: Yeah. And what are you all … ?
James McMillen: I noticed you over there.
Cara Anthony: So, what do you consider all of this?
Michaiahes: Personally, I don’t even know who it is because I don’t mess with police as a result of, due to what’s occurred previously with the police. However, um …
Cara Anthony: As she begins to path off, I encourage her to maintain going.
Cara Anthony: He’s proper right here. He’s answerable for all of these individuals.
Michaiahes: Nicely, for my part, y’all ought to begin caring concerning the neighborhood extra.
Cara Anthony: What are you listening to? She’s talking from the guts right here, Chief. What are you listening to?
James McMillen: Nicely, you recognize what? I agree with the whole lot she stated there.
Cara Anthony: She’s assured now, trying the chief within the eye.
Michaiahes: And let’s simply be sincere: A few of these cops don’t even wish to be right here right now. They’re simply right here to assume they’re doing one thing for the neighborhood.
James McMillen: Let’s be sincere. A few of these are assumptions that y’all are making about police that y’all don’t actually know.
[Subtle propulsive music begins playing.]
Michaiahes: If we seen you defending neighborhood, if we seen you doing what you presupposed to do, then we wouldn’t have these assumptions about you.
James McMillen: I simply wish to say that persons are people. We now have supervisors that attempt to maintain them to carry a normal. And also you shouldn’t decide the entire division, however, however simply don’t decide the entire division off of some. Not more than I ought to decide the entire neighborhood off of some.
Cara Anthony: However right here’s the factor … in our conversations over time, Chief McMillen has been candid with me about how, as a rookie cop, he had judged Sikeston’s Black residents primarily based on interactions with just some.
James McMillen: A few of, um, my first calls within the Black neighborhood have been coping with, clearly, criminals, you recognize? So if first impressions imply something, that one set a foul one. I had, um, actually unfairly judging the entire neighborhood primarily based on the few interactions that I had, once more, with majority of criminals.
Cara Anthony: The chief says he’s moved previous that mind-set and he’s making an attempt to assist his officers transfer previous their assumptions.
And he instructed me about different issues he desires to do …
Rent extra Black officers. Spend money on racial-bias consciousness training for the division. And open up extra strains of communication with the neighborhood.
James McMillen: I do know that we aren’t going to see progress or we’re not going to see success with out a little little bit of ache and discomfort on our half.
Cara Anthony: I don’t assume I’ve ever heard the chief use the time period institutional change, however the guarantees and the plans he’s making sound like steps in that path.
Besides … right here’s one thing else the chief says he desires …
[Subtle propulsive music ends with a flourish.]
James McMillen: As a police officer, I wish to hear extra individuals discuss, um, simply complying with the officer.
Cara Anthony: That phrase is chilling to me.
[Quiet, dark music starts playing.]
After I hear “simply comply” … a litany of names cross my thoughts.
Philando Castile.
Sonya Massey.
Tyre Nichols.
Cara Anthony: After Denzel Taylor was killed, individuals felt unsafe. I talked to numerous residents on the report about them feeling like they didn’t know in the event that they could possibly be subsequent.
One factor that you simply instructed me was, like, properly, one factor that individuals can do is adjust to the officers, you recognize, in the event that they discover themselves having an interplay with legislation enforcement.
James McMillen: Nicely, I imply, I believe that’s, that’s a good suggestion to do.
And if the individual just isn’t complying, that officer has acquired to be considering, is that this individual making an attempt to harm me? So, asking individuals to adjust to the officer’s command — that’s an affordable assertion.
Cara Anthony: However, it’s properly documented: Black Individuals are extra doubtless than our white friends to be perceived as harmful by police.
That notion will increase the probabilities we’ll be the sufferer of lethal drive. Whether or not we comply — or not.
[Quiet, dark music ends.]
That’s all to say … even with the promise of extra Black officers in Sikeston and all of the chief’s different plans, I’m unsure institutional change in policing is coming quickly to Sikeston.
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Cara Anthony: I took that fear to Gail Christopher. She has spent her lengthy profession making an attempt to handle the causes of institutional racism.
Cara Anthony: We’ve been calling most of our friends by their first title, however what’s your desire? I don’t wish to get in bother with my mother on this, you recognize? [Cara laughs.]
Gail Christopher: In case you don’t thoughts, Dr. Christopher is nice.
Cara Anthony: OK. All proper. That sounds good. I’m glad I requested.
Cara Anthony: Dr. Christopher thinks loads concerning the connections between race and well being. And she or he’s govt director of the Nationwide Collaborative for Well being Fairness. Her nonprofit designs methods for social change.
She says the best way to consider beginning to repair structural racism … is to consider the longer term.
Gail Christopher: What would you like in your daughter? What do I would like for my youngsters? I would like them to not have interactions with the police, No. 1, proper?
Uh, so I would like them to have secure locations to be, to play, to be educated … equal entry to the chance to be wholesome.
Cara Anthony: However I’m wondering if that future is even attainable.
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Cara Anthony: Is there a treatment for racism? And I do know it’s not that straightforward, however is there a treatment?
Gail Christopher: I really like the query, proper? And my reply to you’ll be sure. It’s a course of, and it’s not sufficient to march and get a victory. We now have to rework the programs of inequity on this nation.
Cara Anthony: And Dr. Christopher says it is attainable. As a result of racism is a perception system.
[Hopeful instrumental music plays.]
Gail Christopher: There’s a methodology that’s grounded in psychological analysis and social science for altering our beliefs and subsequently altering our behaviors which can be pushed by these beliefs.
Cara Anthony: To get there, she says, establishments want a rigorous dedication to look carefully at what they’re doing — and the outcomes they’re creating.
Gail Christopher: Knowledge monitoring and monitoring and being accountable for what’s happening.
We will’t resolve an issue if we don’t admit that it exists.
Cara Anthony: One among her favourite examples of what it seems to be wish to make a begin towards systemic change comes from the well being care world.
I do know we’ve been speaking about policing to this point, however — bear with me right here — we’re going to pivot to a different method institutional bias kills individuals.
A number of years in the past, a workforce of researchers on the Brigham and Girls’s Hospital in Boston reviewed admission data for sufferers with coronary heart failure. They discovered that Black and Latinx individuals have been much less doubtless than white sufferers to be admitted to specialised cardiology models.
Gail Christopher: With out calling individuals racist, they noticed absolutely the knowledge that confirmed that, wait a minute, we’re sending the white individuals to get the specialty care and we’re not sending the individuals of colour.
Cara Anthony: So, Brigham and Girls’s launched a pilot program.
When a physician requests a mattress for a Black or Latinx affected person with coronary heart failure, the pc system notifies them that, traditionally, Black and Latinx sufferers haven’t had equal entry to specialty care.
The pc system then recommends the affected person be admitted to the cardiology unit. It’s nonetheless as much as the physician to really do this.
The laborious knowledge’s not revealed but, however we checked in with the hospital, they usually say this system appears to be making a distinction.
Gail Christopher: It begins with management. Somebody in that system has the authority and makes the choice to carry themselves accountable for brand new outcomes.
[Hopeful instrumental music ends.]
Cara Anthony: OK, so it could possibly be working at a hospital. Let’s shift again to policing now.
Gail Christopher: There needs to be an accountability board in that neighborhood, a residents’ accountability board, the place they’re setting measurable and achievable objectives and they’re holding that police division accountable for reaching these objectives.
Cara Anthony: However, like, do Black individuals need to take part on this? As a result of we’re drained.
Gail Christopher: Pay attention, do I do know that we’re drained! Am I drained? After 50 years? Uh, I believe that there’s work that each one individuals need to do. This enterprise of studying to see ourselves in each other, to be absolutely human — it’s all of our work.
[Warm, optimistic instrumental music plays.]
Now, does that preclude testing at instances and caring for your self? I can’t inform you how many individuals my age who’re now not alive right now, who have been my colleagues and associates within the motion. However they died prematurely due to this lack of permission to deal with ourselves.
Cara Anthony: Relaxation when it’s worthwhile to, she says, however maintain going.
Gail Christopher: We now have to try this as a result of it’s our harm. It’s our ache. And I believe now we have the stamina and the need to see it change.
Cara Anthony: Yep. Heard. It’s all of our work.
Dr. Christopher has me serious about all of the Black individuals in Sikeston who aren’t sitting round ready for another person to alter the establishments which can be hurting them.
Folks protested when Denzel Taylor was killed even with all of the strain to remain quiet about it.
Protesters: Justice for Denzel on 3. 1, 2, 3 … Justice for Denzel! Once more! 1, 2, 3 … Justice for Denzel!
Cara Anthony: And I’m serious about the individuals who have been dwelling within the Sundown neighborhood of Sikeston in 1942 when Cleo Wright was lynched.
Harry Howard: They picked up rocks and bricks and crowbars and simply something to guard our neighborhood.
Cara Anthony: And Sundown didn’t burn.
[Warm, optimistic instrumental music begins fading out.]
[Piano starts warming up.]
Cara Anthony: After almost 80 years of largely staying quiet about Cleo’s lynching, Sikeston residents organized a service to mark what occurred to him — and their neighborhood.
Reverend: We’re so honored and humbled to be the host church this night for the remembrance and reconciliation service of Mr. Cleo Wright.
[Piano plays along with Pershard singing.]
Pershard Owens: [Singing] It’s been a protracted, very long time coming, however I do know a change gonna come, oh sure it’ll. It’s been too laborious a-livin however I’m afraid to die and I don’t know what’s up subsequent, past the sky …
[Pershard singing and piano accompaniment fade out.]
Cara Anthony: I wish to introduce you to that man who was simply singing then. His title is Pershard Owens.
Bear in mind Rosemary Owens? The lady who instructed us about somebody calling the police on her son and nephew after they have been taking part in with their mother and father’ new vehicles? Pershard is Rosemary’s youthful son.
Pershard Owens: Yeah, I undoubtedly do not forget that.
Cara Anthony: Even in spite of everything this time, different individuals didn’t wish to speak to us about it. We couldn’t discover information protection of the incident. However Pershard remembers. He was in his weekly karate follow when it occurred. He was 10 or 11 years outdated.
Pershard Owens: My brother and cousin have been, like, they have been teenagers. So what do you assume persons are going to really feel concerning the police after they do this, no questions requested, simply weapons drawn?
Cara Anthony: Pershard’s dad works as a police officer on a distinct police drive within the Bootheel. Pershard is aware of police. However that didn’t make it any much less scary for him.
Pershard Owens: , my mother and father nonetheless needed to sit us down and speak and be like, “Hey, that is, that’s not OK, however you’ll be able to’t, you’ll be able to’t be a sufferer. You’ll be able to’t be upset.” That’s how I used to be taught. So we acknowledge the previous. However we don’t, we don’t keep down.
Cara Anthony: So years later, when Chief James McMillen began a program as a extra formal method for individuals in Sikeston and the police to construct higher relationships, Pershard signed up. They began assembly in 2020.
The group is known as Police and Neighborhood Collectively, or PACT for brief.
[Sparse, tentative music begins playing.]
Pershard Owens: It was slightly tense that first couple of conferences as a result of no one knew what it was going to be.
Cara Anthony: This was solely 5 months after Sikeston police killed Denzel Taylor.
PACT just isn’t a residents’ accountability board. The police don’t need to reply to it.
The committee met each month. For some time. However they haven’t met in over a 12 months now.
Pershard Owens: We’d have steps ahead after which we’d have three steps again.
Cara Anthony: Folks have totally different accounts for why that’s. Busy schedules. Mutual suspicion. Different issues cops have accomplished that shook the belief of Black residents in Sikeston.
Pershard Owens: And other people have been like, bro, like, how are you going to work with these individuals?
The neighborhood is like, I can’t absolutely get behind it as a result of I do know what you probably did to my little cousin and them. Like, I do know what the division did again in, you recognize, 15 years in the past, and it’s laborious to get previous that.
So, I imply, I’m getting each side, like, consistently, and hear, that’s, that’s robust.
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Cara Anthony: However Pershard says one thing necessary modified as a result of he began working with PACT.
Pershard Owens: Chief didn’t like me at first [Pershard laughs]. He didn’t.
Chief didn’t … me and Chief didn’t see eye to eye. As a result of he had heard issues about me and he — individuals had instructed him that I used to be, I used to be anti-police and hated cops, and he got here in with a protection up.
So, it took a minute for me and him to, like, begin seeing one another otherwise. Nevertheless it all occurred once we sat down and had a dialog.
[Slow instrumental music begins playing.]
Cara Anthony: Simply have a dialog. It sounds so easy; you’re most likely rolling your eyes proper now listening to it.
However Pershard says … it could possibly be significant.
Pershard Owens: I really need and consider that we will be collectively and we will work collectively and we will have a optimistic relationship the place you see police and y’all dap one another up and y’all legit imply it. I believe that may occur, however lots of people have to alter their mindsets.
Cara Anthony: That’s a problem Pershard is providing to police AND neighborhood members: Have a dialog with somebody totally different from you. See if that adjustments the best way you consider the individual you’re speaking to. See if it adjustments your beliefs.
The extra individuals do this, the extra programs can change.
Pershard Owens: We acquired to look within the mirror and say, “Am I doing what I can to attempt to change the dynamic of Sikeston, even when it does harm?”
Cara Anthony: Pershard says he’s going to maintain placing himself on the market. He ran for Metropolis Council in 2021. And though he misplaced, he says he doesn’t remorse it.
Pershard Owens: While you’re coping with a spot like Sikeston, it’s not going to alter in a single day.
Cara Anthony: And he’s glad he labored with PACT. Even when the neighborhood dialogue has fizzled for now, he’s happy with the brand new relationship he constructed with Chief McMillen. And all of this has broadened his view of what sort of change is feasible.
[Slow instrumental music ends.]
Pershard Owens: If you need one thing that has by no means been accomplished, it’s important to go locations that you simply’ve by no means been.
[“Silence in Sikeston” theme music plays.]
Cara Anthony: Locations that you simply’ve by no means been … tales that you simply’ve by no means instructed out loud … perhaps all of that helps construct a Sikeston the place Black residents can really feel safer. The place Black individuals can reside more healthy lives.
A world you won’t be capable to think about but, however one that would exist for the subsequent technology.
[“Silence in Sikeston” theme music ends.]
[Upbeat instrumental music plays.]
Cara Anthony: Thanks for listening to “Silence in Sikeston.”
Subsequent, go watch the documentary — it’s a joint manufacturing from Retro Report and KFF Well being Information, offered in partnership with WORLD.
Subscribe to WORLD Channel on YouTube. That’s the place you will discover the movie “Silence in Sikeston,” a Native, USA particular.
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